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. looking to ring in with a mileage tax. it will help t rebuild our crumbling infrastructure. wod that crum bem our economy instead . am traceynor cheryl casone. welce to carbin'. wayne john and john and julian and carroll. welcome everyone. so, oregoemocraticic ngressman asking for a leage tax to rebuild our roses and bridges. hn is this good or bad what s going on here? >> this is a ridiculous. it i the wrong time to implement it. electric cars are decades away . having a mileage tax i decades away . putting odom heretos and logging down to the mileage manually. this wodost a fortune for theax. have a gas tax that is do go through road and bridges. >> and talking about a vehicle miles traveled tax. someone like me wayne, so much. i understand why people would want to clarge me more. >> i understand it, too. but john is right we have a fuel tax. and and it is it another way to track pime and look for trouble . you got a fuel tax and fuel tax is a huge tax . they are using the argument to get better mileage now. maybe you don't need to do so much. it is based on mileage. >> wayne makes a go
talking about for weeks and weeks, which is those tax rates. republicans are saying they want to keep tax cuts in place for incomes above $400,000. democrats from their perspective they say they have moved away from one source i talked to, their comfort zone, $250,000. they moved up from that. they're not willing to go above 400,000. the bottom line, i think it goes without saying, this is not a good sign that things are so bad right now and they're not talking at this point when we're so close to what is a clear deadline. >> it's beyond that. it's obnoxious, it's -- >> it's unsulting to americans, it's insulting to the world. more than 500 days have gone by since they came to an agreement that they would have to do something by now. it is quite remarkable that we are actually in this position. dana, excellent reporting, stand by there. i want to remind our viewers, two things that we're talking about here. the democrats had signaled that they might be able to use 400,000 as a threshold. the republicans had signaled they might be able to use $1 million as a threshold. but the speaker of t
a deal. we may still get hit with an automatic tax hike. how much will that cost you? in time for the new year, a new snowstorm headed to the northeast. we'll let you know how bad this will get. and the yore in review, up with of the most unique and appalling takes on the year in review. good morning to you all. welcome to weekends with alex witt. no alex today. taking a much deserved weekend off. i'm t.j. holmes, good to be with you. new this morning, president obama outlining his course of action if we all go off the cliff. >> if an agreement isn't reached on time, then i'll urge the senate to hold an up-or-down vote on a basic package that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends vital unemployment insurance for americans looking for a job and lays the ground work for more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> the president is optimistic that a deal can be reached midnight on new year's eve. listen to senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. >> we had a good meeting down at the white house. engaged in discussions in the hopes we can come forward as early as sunday
get another tax cut. i would argue we can't afford it as a country, but the question is, are we going to allow middle class families to see their taxes go up while we have this debate? if we can agree we will continue tax cuts for the middle class, everything else begins to fall into place. >> wlho is working at this moment? are you involved in this? >> i've been in touch with those involved in this. there is no deal yet. i continue to hope for a bipartisan agreement today. what we see a monumental failure of presidential leadership. the president is the only person with a pen to sign this, and it's the president's responsibility to work on something that the house will pass, the senate will pass and he will sign. he is outsourcing this. he continues to campaign and lecture when he ought to focus on the number one problem that hurt z us as a country, which is our debt. >> it would be nice to place all the blame on the president, but that's not the reality. in the house our democratic caucus is meeting later on today. we've been united as democrats in wanting to protect middle class fa
is no deal on taxes. nearly every american is going to have to pay more in just eight days if congress can't reach some kind of an agreement. checking the big board right now, the dow jones industrial average is down about 41 points. again, we've got a half day of trading and we close today at 1 p.m., so that traders can go out on christmas break. light volume, but there are significant movers that we'll talk about in just a second. in particular, apple and jb penpejb-- j.c. penney. we have shibani joshi and adam shapiro as well and first to nicole, j.c. penney, a lot of people worried about retail sales, think it's going to hit companies like j.c. penney hard? guess what? the stock is up 4%, why? >> that's a huge move on a day when the major market average, look the at j.c. penney, it's posted comments from oppenheimer this morning, talking about the fact that promotions are working well and bringing traffic into john kerry opiniony, you know that we spoke about ron johnson and came up from apple and his whole theory, was no promotion and great prices all the time and that really was work
with the deficit in the biggest way. but their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. at some point, i think what's important is that they listen to the american people. >> joining me now, congressman chris von holland of maryland. good evening. it is a good sign that chained cpi is off the table. the senate will be back tomorrow at 11:00. how high is your optimism or pessimism at this moment? >> well, it was a very bad sign when senator mcconnell put this social security change on the table, as part of a small deal, that was obviously something that could have totally thrown a monkey wrench into the process. so the fact that they backed off that is obviously good news. but as senator reid said, there are lots of obstacles still to go. and the fundamental issue remains what the president just said in that clip. both today and for the last year, the number one priority of republicans have been -- has been to use the middle class tax cuts as leverage to try and extract these super big tax breaks for very wealthy individuals, including now their f
cuts and the expiration of all the bush tax cuts. the latest in just a moment. right now, i'm joined by jamelle buoy. a staff writer for the american prospect magazine and "washington post" reporter, suzy kim. kevin williamson, dep deputy mag editor and a nonprofit group that advocates for social and economic equality. we're one day away from what most media are calling the fiscal cliff. if political concoction enacted by congress to frighten itself into passing deficit reduction measures which means unless congress acts in the next 48 hours the bush tax cuts will expire along with federal unemployment insurance and a broad package of the spending cuts including defense spending will take effect. do weeks of fruitless negotiations and john boehner and senate leader are working on a deal this morning to avoid the fiscal cliff, or as chris hayes and i call it, the fiscal curve. the deadline is soft. it's not like every american is going to be handed a bill on january 1st and there's way to manage the damage if the country goes over. the senate is set to convene this afternoon with the
on the senate, and as democrats dig in to protect social programs, republicans do the same on taxes. >> raising taxes to pay for new spending is not something that republicans believe this debate ought to be about. it ought to be about reducing the deficit and the debt, and what they are essentially suggesting is we want new taxes. we want higher taxes on people in this country to pay for new spending. >> so what happens next? with us nbc news capitol hill correspondent mike vic rah and nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker. mike, let's get started with you. what's happening right now in the senate. i understand there's an update on the chained cpi. >> reporter: they say the darkest hour right before the dawn, melissa. everybody ought to hope that's true, at least if you don't want to see your taxes go up on midnight on monday and tuesday night because everything seems to be at a standstill right now. let's review the bidding. here it is from a republican source here on the republican side of capitol hill. all day yesterday they were trading proposals back and forth. by his count tw
-called fiscal cliff. it's come down to a matter of hours. midnight tomorrow, everybody's taxes going up unless something happens in washington, d.c. hello to you all and welcome to weekends with alex witt. i'm t.j. holmes filling in for alex. a consequence of history in the nation's capital if congress cannot reach a compromise deal on tax and spending cuts. a short time ago, we were hearing from the president talking about the fiscal cliff negotiations. he spoke exclusively on "meet the press" and he had a message for congress. >> at minimum, make sure people's taxes don't go up and 2 million people don't lose their unemployment. i was modestly hopeful yesterday. now, the pressure is on congress to produce. >> the president responded to what would happen if no agreement is reached and the nation does fall over that cliff. >> if you look at projections of 2013, people generally felt that the economy would continue to grow, unemployment would tick down, housing would continue to improve, but what's been holding us back is the dysfunction here in washington. if people start seeing that on januar
. >> brenda: cavuto on business in three, two... >> think taxes are not going up if these guys pull off a last minute miracle? think again. hi, everybody, i'm dagen mcdowell in for neil cavuto and fox on top of a clock ticking down. less than 62 hours until it all goes town and i'm not talking about that ball in times square or those automatic tax hikes and spending cuts lawmakers are scrambling to avoid. i'm talking about taxes going up no matter what. taxes in the esident's health care law. a new tax on invesent income, a tax on medical device makers costing jobs, those aren't the only ones, that last tax forcing companies, many companies to yoff workers. and coming attractions for thehe new year, to ben stein, charles payne, todd schoenberger and sarah, charles, you first. >> let the flood gates open. listen, dagen, obviously, we know-- actually we don't know, but it's to nancy pelosi's point we're going to find out and i hope we like it. lot of taxes associated with obamacare. you mentioned the medic device issue, a lot of these companies, by the way, medical device companies have b
and starting next week, you and i could see our paychecks cut as payroll taxes go up and that could be just the beginning. the clock at the bottom right of your screen there might as well have a blaringa, large on it because come midnight monday if lawmakers have not found the fiscal cliff solution you're going to hear a whole heck of a lot of noise. let's get straight to washington. nbc's kristen welker at the white house and luke russert is tracking developments at capitol hill and nbc news senior political editor mark murray is here to break it down for us from the washington bureau. we will start with kristen. last we heard, kristen welker, the president came out to report that he is modestly optimistic. has the rhetoric changed at all today? >> reporter: it has changed a little bit. the president is still modestly optimistic, but i just spoke with a democratic source who tells me at this hour a deal is looking doubtful. of course, we want to underscore the fact that these negotiations are very fluid so that characterization could change at any moment, but it seems as though the discuss
,000 per year. that income would be shielded from tax increases, and now he wants an extension of unemployment insurance. that is something that essentially a nonstarter in a republican-controlled house. now he is leaving it up to the two leaders in the u.s. senate try to reach a compromise. something perhaps along the line of what is being negotiated between the speaker and the president a couple of weeks ago. perhaps a tax increase for amounts of more than $400,000 or $500,000 per year. also, senate leaders want to include something on the estate tax, according to a white house official. we'll can also be key to this is that the white house officials are also telling fox news and ed henry that it appears as though the debt ceiling is not part of that. this is a huge nonstarter for republicans in the house. they want any dollar and increase of the debt ceiling to also involve a dollar in cuts over 10 years. if they don't have those corresponding cuts, it is unlikely that many of them will vote for an increase in the debt ceiling. removing them from the equation helps pave the
cuts and tax hikes for nearly every american. i'm gregg jarrett. welcome to a brand-new hour. >> arthel: i'm art article. 11th how-hour scrambling after a meeting with president obama and leaders from the house and senate with high noon fast approaching, president is pushing to seal the deal. >> modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody is going to get hundred percent of what they want. let's make sure that middle-class families and the american economy and in fact the world economy are not adversely impacted because people can do their can't do their jobs. >> arthel: now the latest. >> discussions are ongoing but we shouldn't expect any announcements before senators are briefed. key players are pretty tight-lipped. after a white house meeting yesterday, one of the top negotiators sounded hopeful. >> we had a longs meeting in the white house, very constructive. we hope that it will bear fruit. i think that the next 24 hours will be very instructive as to what we're able to accomplish. >> reporter: sources say john boehner referred to his senate colleagues and told th
that they agree that it is important now to keep taxes from going up on most people and accept the reality that they will go up by the top 1 pshgs 2%, 250,000 in income and above. and it does look, to me, that there are enough votes if senator reid puts that on the floor for it to break the 60. but the republican probably going to filibuster it. >> even at 250,000, not 400 or 500, other numbers that have been floated? >> those are the compromise numbers. that's an effort by the president and senator reid to bring the republicans along. but senator reid said his preference is 250,000, which i agree with, by the way. what we're talking about is 4.6% increase in taxes. that means if you're making 250,000 ayear for every additional 1,000 you'll pay $46. the notion of paying $46 out of 1,000 for wealthy people has any negative affect on anybody, i confirmed this talking to one of wealthiest men of boston, i asked if we were to raise taxes by that amount on him would he know it if his accountant didn't make a point of telling him. he said of course not. but in any case the 400 is an effort to ha
it to the conversation of exactly where these tax cuts could take place if they happened after january 1st. the republicans want to vote to lower taxes. okay? see them go right to left as it were. the democrats want to see them go down and the republicans it appears increasingly clear are not going to vote to change the figure below the $1 million mark that boehner didn't get past the caucus unless they say to their people at home, they voted to lower taxes on all americans. >> peter, that was extraordinary. >> reporter: i tried. >> one of the best on this show. thank you! >> we have also got mike viqueira. mike? a lot of people and myself included believe that the payroll tax cut is the most damaging part of this for the middle class. if we do not extend it $125 billion comes out of the economy this year. so, you know, when's the latest on the payroll tax cut? any chance it's extended as part of a deal? >> reporter: great question. i cannot compete with peter's metaphor. it's a full court heave as the buzzer is sounding. that's the odds for a deal before monday night new year's eve. the p
. democrats would get to raise taxes on you, every american. they will get massive defense cuts that they have always dreamed of, and to top it all off they would also get to place the blame squarely on the shoulders of republican lawmakers. but this president is playing a very dangerous game of chicken with our economy. and yesterday they detailed how serious this situation is. in a let secretary geithner explains what will happen if the u.s. hits the debt ceiling on the 31st and is not able to pay their bills. treasury department will have to take extraordinary measures. i'm not sure what he hopes to achieve by sending that letter because the senator leader has showed he's incapable of acting. they have not passed a budget in the u.h. senate in over 1,000 days. and in speaking on the senate floor instead of offering solutions senator reed started pointing fingers again and again. watch this. >> if we go over the cliff, and it looks like that's where we are headed, the house of representatives, as we speak, with four days left, aren't here with the speaker having told them he will give them 4
to understand exactly what this fiscal cliff is. it's actually not that complicated. the tax cuts that were introduced in 2001, 2003, 2010, those were extended, and they are all about to expire at the end of the year. so on midnight december 31, if congress doesn't act, then everybody's taxes go up. and for the average family, that could mean a loss of $2,000 in income. for the entire economy, that means consumers have a lot less money to make purchases, which means businesses are going to have a lot less customers, which means that they are less likely to hire, and the whole economy could slow down at a time when the economy is actually starting to pick up. we are seeing signs of recovery in housing and in employment numbers improving. and so what congress needs to do, first and foremost, is to prevent taxes from going up for the vast majority of americans. and this was a major topic of discussion throughout the campaign. what i said was that we should keep taxes where they are for 98% of americans. 97% of small businesses. but if we're serious about deficit reduction, we should make sure
. because it's actually not that complicated. the tax cuts that were introduced in 2001, 2003, 2010, those were extended and they're all about to expire at the end of the year. so on midnight, december 31st, if congress doesn't act, then everybody's taxes go up. and for the average family, that could mean a loss of $2,000 in income. for the entire economy, that means consumers have a lot less money to make purchases, which means businesses are going to have a lot less customers, which means that they're less likely to hire and the whole economy could slow down at a time when the economy is starting to pick up and we're seeing signs of recovery in housing and employment numbers improving. so what congress needs to do first and foremost, is to prevent taxes from going up for the vast majority of americans. and this was a major topic of discussion throughout the campaign. what i said was, that we should keep taxes where they are for 98% of americans. 97% of small businesses. but if we're serious about deficit reduction, we should make sure that the wealthy are paying a little bit more and com
, what's hanging on the edge of the cliff is higher taxes on dividends. coming up, the chairman and ceo of southern company owning a bunch of power companies in the south tells us why the tax hike would be a huge blow to his industry, a blow everybody will feel as usual. it's passed on to you, the consumer. >> financials a big winner up this year we have an analyst who expects the gravy train to roll on next year. find out the banks he likes for 2013. david: a lot to cover, but first, what drove the markets with the data download. ending the week down more than 1.5%. lack of progress, of course, in the miscall cliff negotiations, and all ten s&p sectors in the negative tear -- territory the second week in a row. oil slipped into the red today, but finished the holiday shortened weekend positive. notching at 2.4% gain to end the week, again, over the $90 mark, $90.80 a barrel. home sales jumping to the highest level in two and a half years last month. the national association of retailer -- excuse me, realtors. index rose 1.7%. >> good news. we have sandra smith in the pits of the cme, a
aboutrd. now, the president campaigned on raising taxes on people making more than $250,000 a year. the bush era tax cuts will expire at the end of this year. obama was elected with a surplus of about 3 million votes. he won the election. he campaigned on this issue. again, the speaker can't take yes for an answer. the president has presented to him something that would prevent us from going over the cliff. it was in response to something the speaker gave to the president himself, but, again, i guess with the dysfunctional republican caucus in the house even the speaker can't tell what he's going to do because he backed off even his own proposal. mr. president, the house, we hear this so often, is controlled by the reap warnings and we acknowledge that. i would be most happy to move forward on something that senator mcconnell said they wouldn't filibuster over here that he would support and that boehner would support, if it were reasonable, but right now we haven't heard anything. i don't know, and it's none of my business, i guess, although i am very serious, if the speaker and th
to -- that they were going to wait on that piece and tried to get the tax be stunned. i do have a couple more details of want to share with you that are important. the tax extenders. very important to the business community. i have from an official who was involved in these negotiations learn that the framework would, in fact, extend the research and development tax credit. very important to tech companies and to other companies that do a lot of r&b, extending for one more year. also the provision for special depreciation. 50 percent bonus depreciation would be extended for another year. the president at an event at the white house with working-class middle-class families, urging them to keep up the pressure on the members of congress to get to sequester finish line. >> as the president just said, we are very close to an agreement. we need to protect american families and job creators from this looming tax act. everyone agrees that action is necessary. i can report that we reached an agreement on all of the tax issues. >> obviously that was not the president. that was the republican leader has been n
over the fiscal cliff which means taxes go up for everybody who pays taxes but what else does it mean for you -@and for the economy? the chief of staff on george w. bush council of economic advisors, she thinks we're probably going over because the white house will not stop pushing for higher tax rates, she joins us later this hour. shibani: maybe the texas will be higher in 2013, but prices at the pump will be lower. some good news and some bad news. david: but first we will tell you what drove the market in today's data download. all three major indices closing to the red for the third day in a row. nine of 1 10 s&p sectors ended lower led by consumer discretionary and materials posted gains but they were the only ones out of the nine or 10 sectors. falling compared to the previous month up one year earlier. case-shiller index rising 4.3% compared to year ago. manufacturing utility slowing down, the federal reserve bank using five points from nine in november. numbers above zero indicating expanding activities but there is a slowing trend that has to be watched. shibani: let's take
to raise taxes, and then, to top it off, the shoulders of republican mÑwxj >>> and watch this. >> american people, i don't think understand the house representative is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictator ship )÷!>> let him take the country over the fiscal cliff if he so chooses. they were elected to get the fiscal house in order. now is the time for republicans to stand up for your kids and grandchildren. maybe she the should say they're looking out for the future, future generations maybe now is the time to take a stabbed stand and say they're not going let washington continue with this out of control spending, debt, maybe now, at this moment, maybe that is the right thing to do. and joining me now with reaction to this developing story are two house republicans, congressman louie gomert. welcome back to "hannity". >> good to be with you. >> sean, i can -- . >> sean: go ahead. >> i can sympathize that he can not imagine our consciences in the house because you'd have to have one to aimagine ours. and he's shown repeatedly, over three
package for an up or down vote, one that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends the vital life line of unemployment insurance to 2 million americans looking for a job, and lays the groundwork for future cooperation on more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> and just moments ago, senator harry reid says he's readying a bill for a vote by monday. all this follows a rare face to face-closed-door meeting at the white housed to between all the key players. the president, the vice president, the treasury secretary, and all four congressional leaders. huddled together with just four days to go before we all go over the fiscal cliff. that meeting lasted for an hour and five minutes. now on a story where every second and every maneuver counts let's get right to chief white house correspondent increase ka yellin. the president says he's modestly optimistic but he also presented a backup plan. does the president really think it will come to that? >> at this point, no. they don't. because the white house is hopeful, first of all, that the agreement that the senators a
. house gop puts middle class americans in jeopardy while clinging to tax cuts for the wealthy. no 48 notice on house votes. the potus on his way to d.c. to address fiscal cliff for the middle class with six days left to act. gop still mia. joining me now from hawaii, kristin welker. was the president expected? >> we did expect that given there was no deal on the fiscal cliff that he would have to return early from his hawaiian vacation. he will be flying out late or this evening. the first lady and the first daughters continuing his hawaiian vacation. he will find himself in a similar situation. the negotiations are largely deadlocked. just to give you a sense of how we got to where we are, if you go back to last week, it seemed like the house and speaker were getting close to getting a big deal that would have included tax reform and deficit reduction. that fell apart. house speaker john boehner tried to get his own bill through the house. he realized he didn't have enough votes for that. that fell apart as well. the ball is in the senate's court. according to an aide, senate majori
are optimistic about a mini deal which, of course, will raise taxes on those above $400,000. expand the amt, cut some spending. what are you hearing? >> reporter: well, hearing a lot of different things right now. one of the items and ruled by rumor and then denials and frustrations, toure. we know that we saw senators mcconnell and reid arriving a short time ago. we didn't pelosi and boehner arrive yet but the vice president joe biden got here a short time ago, as well. there's other reporting from the hill right now about the potential that the president is going to return to what was basically his original outlined plan. perhaps a smaller plan but a plan where the threshold would be set closer to $250,000 as he initially had before the $400,000 offer that john boehner the white house would contend walked away from when he proposed his $1 million threshold in this situation right now. that and a priority that the president outlined a week ago on friday before leaving to join the family in hawaii saying he wanted to extend unemployment benefits for a lot of americans. 2 million plus beginning t
, tip o'neill, the democrat made a deal for the huge change in our tax structure. there seems no possibility of a deal like that being made now. >> well, the republicans clearly feel that they've been disadvantaged by president obama and they actually, i don't think, trust him or the democrats anymore because of the experience they went through with the affordable care act. obama care, they've got nothing out of it so they feel they will be hung out to dry if they do a deal. >> you know, there are so many pots and plans clattering around the chamber and what bothers me he is the lopsidedness of the debate. how about the g.o.p. for decades never said we are the ones delivering the middle class tax cuts. these are middle class tax rates that were enacted undergeorge w. bush. we own these for the middle class, not the democrats. why isn't the g.o.p. stepping up for that. >> i guess because they have no historical memory, a democrat hasn't done this since jfk. back in the early 1960's. and he got a huge amount of protest. >> clinton lowered the capital gains tax and because of tha
decisions on taxes and spending to the future. again, in an afternoon white house meeting president obama pitch a debt plan he had outlined a week ago, prevent a tax increase for income of less than to an effective thousand dollars per year and extend long-term unemployment benefits. senate leaders are using that framework to try to craft a proposal to pass both houses of congress. aides say it would likely increase the threshold for tax increases, reversing massive pay cut from medicare doctors, and elections of millions of americans to avoid paying the alternative minimum tax. an increase in the debt ceiling is not part ofhe discussion. that is significant development r house republicans who won any increase in the borrowing limit it accompanied by an equal amount in spending cuts taking the debt ceiling of the table making it much easier for the scaled-down version to be negotiated. from here senate leaders will try to secure an agreement by sunday morning. if so, democrats and republicans will try to sell its house and senate members. if they can do that the voting begins. there is so
. fiscal faceoff or new year's resolution. also one tax that will go up. marilyn monroe closely watched by the fbi. director's feud over "django unchained" and a chance for 100 lucky people to star in the super bowl halftime show alongside beyonce'. details on those stories throughout the hour. >>> but up first, right now senate leaders scrambling to find common ground to avoid going over that fiscal cliff. got less than three days to go now, folks. at the same time in his weekly address today, the president says he's preparing a plan of action if no deal is reached. >> if an agreement isn't reached on time, then i'll urge the senate to hold an up or down vote on a basic package that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends vital unemployment insurance for americans looking for a job, and lays the ground work for future progress on more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> republicans say they want a deal as well, but they highlighted their biggest sticking points today in their weekly address. listen now to missouri senator roy blount. >> senate democrats have sp
is if they are giving on tax increases which we get the indication they are willing to do at least to some degree they would like to see something that addresses the long-term deficit. whether that can happen in this deal seems to be the problem. democrats have said if they can get something bigger they would be open to changes in entitlements. that is where things stand. there is clearly even handed on both sides saying they want to get things done. you know the clock is running and those signs make everyone think this may not resolve itself tonight. >> thank you very much. >>> let's go to the white house and kristen welker. hi there. >> reporter: hi, there. the white house is not commenting on these developments. senior administration officials say the action is going on on the hill right now. they are hesitant to weigh in. they don't want to disrupt any progress or setbacks that may be in the process of being resolved. so that is what the white house is saying publicly. i can tell you that behind the scenes it is a very busy day here at the white house. staffers have been on the phone with the
, but this legislation is what is said. the legislation has the expiration of the tax cuts after 10 years. if nothing is done, all tax rates go up. what you see happening allowing some of them to go, all of them to go up, it is a very difficult situation for speaker boehner and the house republicans to be in. i feel very sorry for them. they are caught in a trap. lou: a trap, a conundrum that was perfectly visible. it was transparent where we would be. and the republicans, the republican leadership, the republican national committee. all of the so-called wise men and women of the party did absolutely nothing to prepare for this strategic moment, and they are coming up woefully short. >> that's very true. you knew it happened 10 years ago when there was a provision that this was going to happen. here it is. i think the key for the republicans from my standpoint is to get this over with as quickly as possible. the serious business of trying to prevent spending increases and other programs. without giving up the position of republicans and being able to get those tax cuts. we will have an awful 2013 and
in the house until it has passed the senate. nearly every american will see a tax increase starting january 1st and unemployment benefits will expire for millions. >> ordinary folks do their jobs, they meet deadlines. they sit down and they discuss things and then things happen. if there are disagreements, they sort through the disagreements. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. it needs to stop. >> in washington, i'm stacy cohan. >> uncertainty over the fiscal cliff is having a ripple effect from washington to wall street. u.s. stocks ended the session on friday in the red for the fifth straight day. a triple digit loss for the dow which tumbled 158 points, the nasdaq lost almost 26 points. the s&p 500 shed almost 16 points. and the gridlock in washington could help the current congress make history as the most unproductive ever. it's amazing. a review by the huffington post shows 219 bills have been passed this session, that's compared to 383 bills passed by the previous congress, and 460 by the group before that. now, to avoid the distincti
leader mitch mcconnell talking about doing something to keep more than trillion dollars in tax increases and cuts from taking effect next week. also joining that party today, america's happy warrior. vice president joe biden will be there. while some appear ready to compromise others are still ducking, dodging, trying to dump the blame elsewhere. >> we all have our ideas and in the senate, you're right. we probably another 40, 50, 60 of saying that we're ready to both raise revenues and control entitlements. when's the missing ingredient? it is presidential leadership. >> i think in the end we'll get a deal. the question is the timing. >> am hopeful there will be a deal that avoids the worst parts of the fiscal cliff, namely taxes going up on middle class people. >> it's pretty apparent that we are not going to do what we've been called to do. this is 112th congress. we have had two years to deal with quote the fiscal cliff. >> let's bring in our man at the white house, peter alexander standing by. pete, we just got word the president it appears is making some sort of smaller offer at th
a 20% of gdp to 25% gdp and rather than cut spending raise taxes as necessary to support that spending and i would say that is in fact essentially the french model. and the question is whether it can support enough growth in the economy. >> paul: taxes are going up, we know that, spending, going up for sure even before the health care law kicks in. so, we are moving in that direction, particularly in the entitlement state. not reforming it, but actually expanding it. >> aen what happened this year was the supreme court helping this along, you have the justices essentially rewrite legislation changing the plain text that congress passed in order to declare obamacare constitutional, which is a little scary, that that highest justices in the land would take that sort of activist role and you mentioned france, dan, that's scary. the back drop of this whole presidential year is europe. we know where the path leads. and the turmoil and welfare states and how unsustainability and the high unemployment that comes with them and that was the back drop of our presidential campaign. >> paul: okay,
was modestly optimistic about a deal on taxes. speaking in the white house briefing room, president obama condemned congress for failing to resolve its differences in in normal way. he held firm to middle-class tax cuts to families making $250,000 per year. joining me now from the white house is nbc's kristen welker. kristen, let's take a look at what the president said about what he expects from the senate. >> i just had a good discussion from house leadership about how to prevent this on the middle class. i believe we can reach an agreement. if an agreement isn't reached in time between senator reid and sno senator mccollum, i will reach to him. i believe such a proposal could pass both houses with bipartisan majorities as long as the leaders allow it to actually come to a vote. if members of the house or the senate want to vote no, they can. but we should let everybody vote. >> kristen, this up or down vote seems to be the big news of the day. isn't this what the white house wanted all along? >> well, it is and it's president obama's way of saying, look, vote on his basic proposal, the
sides are pushing for today. >> i think we can all agree that tax rates are the biggest sticking point. so what specific issues are your sources saying that they might actually address in this meeting today besides tax rates? could they talk about unemployment benefits, spending cuts, what's expected to come up today? >> this is the -- the specific details of the proposal could include in addition to tax rates, as you point out, an extension of unemployment benefits. the amt fix, the alternative minimum tax would be patched for another year. and medicare doctor payments, preventing pay cut s s to medic providers. and the question that republicans are asking is would the president and democrats be willing to include some way to avert an estate tax hike and would democrats be willing to find a way to pay r for extending unemployment benefits. those are unknowns and we expect that will be something they will bring up at that meeting. again, not too much optimism that even if those issues get resolved, all of this gets through the house and senate before new year's but we can always hope.
preventing the tax hike on the middle class and we should be able to reach an agreement to pass both house necessary time. >> senate leaders can't strike a deal. it would be a plan c. keeping tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less . extending unemployment benefits and delay dramatic spending cuts until later next year. >> they realize it is it a critical time. >> we are engaged in discussion majority leader and myself and the white house in the hopes we can come forward sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make and we'll be working hard to try to get there in the next 24 hours. >> sources say house spheeker bone bone deferred to the senate and house would consider or amend the plan and not expected to be included is the debt limit . leading republican senator said permanence is key and given the certain ty. task and alternative minimum and thres hold of tending bush over $400,000 and $750,000 is a key point. >> heavy lift before the end of the year. >> here for a fair and balanced debate . democraticic of kentucky. you are number
. but the way they for behaving, their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. >> this deal won't affect the debt situation. it will be a political victory for the president. i hope we will have the courage of our convictions when it comes time to raise the debt ceiling to fight for what we believe as republicans. but hats off to the president. he won. >> south carolina senator lindsay graham and president obama -- the state of our fragile economy. president obama made his final argument, placing the blame squarely on congress, specifically, house republicans, mr. obama is cautiously opt mifertic that lawmakers will reach a watered-down deal, but no mention of debt, tax reform or entitlements. i'm shannon bream. the senate will convene in an hour. we have team coverage on capitol hill and at the white house. we start with mike, live on capitol hill. what's the latest on republicans? and how are they reacting to the comments we heard from the president? >> reporter: good afternoon. the critical comments from president obama in a critical stage in t
the euro. new leadership, pay cuts, higher taxes as their weary government begs for more cash. committing to save the euro. it lives on, but for how long? >> the deadliest month to date as the assad regime intensified its air power. >> how much longer can this man hold on to power? bashar al assad was under even more intense pressure to step down but his regime stepped up the fire power against the opposition, civilians caught in the crossfire, more than 40,000 people have died so far. >> reporter: this is yet another bread line. >> the opposition fights on, making more dramatic gains than ever and gaining pledges of support from the international community. number one, she fought back from the brink of death after being attacked on a school bus. the taliban shot malala yousafzai. she survived, wake up in a british hospital and, according to her father, immediately asked for her school books. the world was gripped, moved and inspired by the story of one determined young girl facing down an entire network of armed militants and winning. zain verjee, cnn, london. >>> next, the stories that
tense meeting with the president. this is perhaps the final effort to avert the tax increase that is expected to cost the average family several thousand dollars a year. four days remain to reach an agreement, get it passed by the house and the senate and signed into law by the president. we're talking a long shot here. now, want to show you the players. president, there in the middle, democrats nancy pelosi and harry reid. republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m., less than one hour from now. and just four days ahead of the so-called fiscal cliff. so a very big moment in the nation's capital. and to walk us through what might happen we turn to jessica yellin, a chief white house correspondent. jes
street being concerned about taxes, unemployment insurance benefits so jobs are not being created so this provides the imperative at a higher level for congress. lori: if you hear the cbo says if we do go over the cliff then gdp will drop half a percentage point*? could it be worse we already see the impact of fiscal cliff concerns? >> yes. i respect the cbo numbers and the director that they say this is an estimate. i don't think we go back into a recession, but when i talk about this, seven and $87 billion went into the economy to rescue it from the recession. now if we don't pullout $600 billion with the tax creases -- increases so that would have an adverse effect on wall street and main street. we live in a global economy. this sense verbal signals. tracy: what about signals to your stuuents? they are about to enter the job force nobody will hire any time soon. >> hiring is the key number but the good news with jobless claims they suggest the layoffs have begun to moderate. it is in the range of a healthy economy. but the bureau of labor statistics said the number of job opening
that he wanted to extend the bush era tax cuts for those making less than $250,000 and focusing on the unemployment insurance for more than 2 million americans who are already receiving letters within the next days. as early as tomorrow, luke, they will stop getting those checks if nothing changes. it will be the last check they will get if nothing changes going forward. recognize the five who will be here in this private meeting will be meeting for the first time since before thanksgiving. so while the president said a week ago he was open to several steps to get a comprehensive package done, he said could it happen all at once, over the course of several steps at this point the most optimistic perspective coming from here is that they can make those small steps to get through the new year and have to relitigate this again in the beginning of the new year. >> wouldn't that be fun for all involved. kelly o., on the hill, tapped into boehner. they have been saying all along that it is up for the senate to act and the president to act and the house has done its will, washed their
thought a $250,000 and above extension of the tax -- bush tax cuts could, in fact, pass and he was extremely, extremely angry in ways that you really hear on the senate floor with the speaker of the house. take a listen. >> it's beings operated with a dictatorship of the speaker not allowing the vast majority of the house of representatives to get what they want. if the 250 would be brought up, it would pass. >> so harry reid there calling house speaker john boehner a dictator for not bringing a bill to the floor that would extend the bush tax cuts for all those who make less than $250,000 a year. now that bill if it was brought to the house floor would have to pass with democratic votes. speaker boehner has said that he wants to pass something ultimately that can be con by t done by the majority of the majority. >> i don't understand how you can call him a dictator when he can't get his own bill passed. that doesn't make any sense to me. if he was a dictator, he could have done it. >> what we're watching here is a lot of finger pointing. the house side wants the senate to do s
. both sides still far apart, however, on taxes and spending cuts. senate majority leader harry reid says prospects for a deal by monday are still unlikely. there was a lot of movement, motion for not a lot of action. >> where were you yesterday? >> i was here. we were together. >> were we ever with our -- no. but there were duelling senate leaders just -- first mcconnell came on. and he said -- did you see either one of those? >> i did. >> did you see harry reid? >> there's no chance of -- >> but if you think -- i want to rise above. there was so little of anything close to that yesterday other than just the -- i mean, people at home must be like, it's the endless blaming and finger pointing and, you know, when one side says it's all the other side's fault and all the other side comes on and says people at home aren't going, wow, i believe you, harry. or i believe i, mitch. they're saying you're both losers, right? >> right. >> my real concern is this is what the current version of america actually voted for. >> the house is different. all politics is local. harry reid, you know which in
taxes on families and small businesses. it was a mandate to work together to begin solving the massive debt that threatens our country's future. >> reporter: the house and the senate will both be back in session tomorrow and the president has said he expects them to quickly vote to pass legislation to avoid the fiscal cliff, if, he and the speaker are able to make a deal before it's too late. gregg: we'll be holding our breath. peter doocy, thanks. >> reporter: yeah. patti ann: the commander-in-chief also spent part of his holiday thanking the troops on a visit to a hawaiian military base. the president and first lady paying tribute to those here and abroad who risk their lives keeping us safe. he took time to honor their families as well. >> so many of you make sacrifices day in, day out on behalf of our freedom, on behalf of our security, and not only do those in uniform make sacrifices but i think everybody here understands the sacrifices that families make each and every day as well. and michelle --. patti ann: the president also made a series of holiday phone calls monday night th
? the president at one point actually upped what he was willing to tax. he wants taxes. originally saying on incomes of 250,000 and up. then he went to 400,000. what kind of compromise do we need from both side to get a deal done so that i don't have to keep boring people with this term fiscal cliff? >> right. to really get the deal done right you need about 4 troll trillion to get us back on track. that means pro-growth tax reform, entitlement reform and better control of savings of the proposals at this point are not at that level. they're more $2.5 trillion range. we're very anxious to see what the president will put forward in terms of savings and reform. adam: in roughly four days can all of you in washington get this deal done? or is it going to be some kind of a patch with some kind of delay and than we'll deal with the new congress deals with it? >> well, adam i think you're kind of on it there. it would be great if we can get it done. if not let's at least get the framework to set it up and finish it off right away. either way we have to get a deal done before congress gets adjou
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